Lessons From The Farm House

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to Samos Padres, a. [00:00:03] Speaker B: Podcast dedicated to the constant development over parenting and ourselves. [00:00:07] Speaker A: We are your hosts, Paolo and Jessenia. Thanks for joining us as we share our parenting experiences rooted within the context of our own life journey. [00:00:16] Speaker B: In that spirit, we will also be sharing parenting information and the stories of Madres and Padres out there who have. [00:00:21] Speaker A: Embraced their own personal evolution as the great latest gift of parenthood. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Here we go. [00:00:35] Speaker A: Welcome back, miminidos to Somos Padres. [00:00:38] Speaker B: Yes, here we are. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Here we are. Our last episode of this first season back. [00:00:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we're closing out our first season back. [00:00:50] Speaker B: Closing the season and beginning a new year. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Yeah, we're recording this on January 1 for release on January 2. [00:01:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Yes. Coming out tomorrow. [00:01:02] Speaker B: We're going to have to release it. [00:01:03] Speaker A: Today, but really not tomorrow. Not tomorrow. Okay. And yeah, let's get this party started. Bottle. What are we drinking? [00:01:12] Speaker B: The drink of the day. Yeah, well, since it's January 1, our drink of the day is non alcoholic. We're on a health bit, actually, because since we're actually recording, like, well, it's already past noon. [00:01:30] Speaker A: But we're basically having breakfast. [00:01:32] Speaker B: We were basically having breakfast at 02:00 p.m.. Yeah. So we were like, you know what? The drink of the day. You were the one, say, yesterday's net. [00:01:41] Speaker A: I did. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Because I was making already. Because now I can honestly say that we have this habit. We have built this habit because we've been doing it for years already of actually always drinking a smoothie. A healthy smoothie. [00:02:00] Speaker A: 90% of the time. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah, 90% of the time. Sometimes on some holidays and weekends, we just don't do it. But Monday through Friday, I was saying that over 95% all the time. Yeah, pretty much. So we make this healthy smoothie that has. [00:02:17] Speaker A: Makes it. [00:02:17] Speaker B: Actually, I make it. Yeah. So imagine we've been doing it for years. So this movie has spinach. It has pumpkin seeds, hemp seeds, chia seeds, cacao, cashews, frozen strawberries, frozen blueberries, and frozen. What's it called? The purple Dragon fruit. Dragon fruit. [00:02:48] Speaker A: You have apple in it. [00:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah, we're adding an apple to it as well. And sometimes instead of spinach, we do the one that has the mix. Salad mix. Yeah, they call it mix. No, garden mix. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Oh, garden mix. [00:03:00] Speaker B: Which has spinach and other types of oat milk. Yeah, oat milk. Because now our bodies don't really digest regular milk anymore. No. And it's actually really delicious. [00:03:16] Speaker A: It is. [00:03:17] Speaker B: It has banana as well. Yeah, it has banana. Because that's the fruit that makes it actually sweet. [00:03:24] Speaker A: I think you're going to have to make a list for people just in case they want to try. [00:03:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You know what? I'll put it in the show notes. Yeah, it's super delicious. [00:03:31] Speaker A: Honestly, really good. [00:03:32] Speaker B: It doesn't look completely like. Oh, wow. The look is just like a chocolate. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a little green. Although, at first I thought it was. [00:03:42] Speaker B: Purple, but now, no, it's like a dark green paper because of the spinach. Dark green. Kind of like color of the cacao. Like brownish grayish. Yeah. The grape petal, for me, is not about the look. It's just about that it's healthy and it tastes really good because at the end of the day, we put it in these stainless containers. Stainless steel containers. Yeah. You don't really see it. [00:04:08] Speaker A: So that is our drink of the day. Thank you, Paulo. Thank you very much. [00:04:11] Speaker B: And thanks to this drink, I actually feel really energized. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah. We are locked in, ready to go. [00:04:17] Speaker B: That's the way we've been consuming it for years. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Today, we're here to talk to you about our lessons from the farm. [00:04:24] Speaker B: But before we jump into the lessons. [00:04:26] Speaker A: On the farm, we got to do our high low. [00:04:28] Speaker B: We have to do the high slow. Okay. [00:04:31] Speaker A: Where do you want to go first? High low. [00:04:35] Speaker B: I'll do a high. Since last time we recorded, which was like, a week ago. Like a week ago. My high is that I actually didn't over drink during Christmas or New Year's. And I feel. I feel so, like, good about myself. Yeah, I drank just enough to make me feel good. [00:04:57] Speaker A: Yeah. My high is that I actually took down all of the Christmas decorations yesterday. [00:05:05] Speaker B: Yeah, they're all packaged. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, we're going to enter the new year set for the new year. [00:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. All the boxes need to be. The container is to be put away and label. Label. So that next year we know. Well, no. Yeah. At the end of this year, we know what's in there. [00:05:22] Speaker A: Yeah. But no, that was pretty great to just turn the page on that and get ready for 2024. It was like, a nice way of closing out the year for me. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:34] Speaker A: And then what about your low? [00:05:37] Speaker B: My low, I think. I don't know if I said this in the past episodes, but my low is that my sleeping schedule is all over the place. I'm not getting up early like I used to. Like, when I go to work. [00:05:50] Speaker A: You're not even getting up close to early. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Not even close to early. And for me, that is not good because I feel that I'm not living my life entirely. [00:06:02] Speaker A: And, you know, this is where it gets really funny, is I went back to work this week, so I've been getting back to my normal routine. And Michael Madre asked me. She's like, oh, how do you feel being back to work? And typically, you're like, oh, my God, I needed a longer vacation, or I didn't want to come back or whatever. But actually, I was ready to go back to work because the entire week that we were off, I was like, you. I was, like, getting up late, and then I was all feeling tired because I didn't get up early. I was totally out of rhythm. I felt completely unproductive. All the things I wanted to do, I didn't do. And so I was like, you know what? I think I'm ready to go back to work because I get back on my routine and I'm actually able to do more of the things I want to do. I feel better when I'm going to bed at the right time and I'm waking up at the right time and just doing all the thing. I'm just way more productive, and I just feel better. [00:07:08] Speaker B: Yeah, no, yeah. I do remember how it feels. It feels amazing to wake up early. There's no work. [00:07:16] Speaker A: Ease into your day. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah. You go to the coffee machine, prepare yourself your coffee for the day. You start the morning just contemplating life. Every simple. [00:07:27] Speaker A: See, that's the ideal. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Because every single, that's what you dream. [00:07:30] Speaker A: Is going to happen. [00:07:31] Speaker B: Because I've done it in the past, but now that my sleeping is all over the place, I'm not doing it. So I'm missing out on that experience. So I need to be really intentional and fix my. [00:07:44] Speaker A: Well, you got one week to try and figure out. [00:07:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I have a week. [00:07:49] Speaker A: For me, my low was actually that I messed up my lower back. And it all started with our work in Lafonna, right. In helping with the family business with Masa. We have to carry. We don't have to, but, I mean, it's part of what I'm doing. When I'm helping people with 40, 50 pounds of masa, I'm, like, handing them their boxes or bags. And it's work that I'm not used to on the day to day. Right. I'm not used to picking up heavy things. And so I think that that began to mess up my back, and then I didn't allow my back to heal sufficiently from that. And I went straight to Zumba on Tuesday and Thursday. [00:08:32] Speaker B: But you love to dance. [00:08:34] Speaker A: I do. And I was like, I want to go. And so I went. And during the Thursday class, when during the Thursday class, we had to do squats, and as soon as I started squatting, like, halfway through to do the squats, I was like, I can't squat anymore. I started to feel pain, really bad pain. And then I just stopped squatting. I kept on dancing, but didn't do the squats anymore. But it was just too much. My back was just messed up. And since then, I have a lot of pain. I can't lift things, and I'm just working on trying not to do much and let it heal and not go to Zumba and not carry things. But, I mean, even yesterday that I was just putting even the tree down, all I did was grab the tree from the top, and as soon as I just lifted up that right, I just put some pressure on my right hand to pull something up. Not even, like, heavy, but that was enough for my lower back to be in pain. So I don't know. [00:09:41] Speaker B: And this is the thing. You already been to the chiropractor? [00:09:44] Speaker A: I haven't been to the chiropractor for this, but I went to get cupping. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Oh, no, but you spanish. [00:09:51] Speaker A: What is it called? Ventosas. Las ventosas. Yeah, I went to go get those. [00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, but you got the massage. [00:09:58] Speaker A: I thought you went to the Cairo for this. I didn't go to the Cairo for this. I haven't gone. Maybe I'll go next week if it continues. But, no, I just did the Ventosas, the cupping, and it helped a little bit, but, no, this is going slow. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:16] Speaker A: So that's my love for the. [00:10:17] Speaker B: Well, I'm sorry to hear that, babe. [00:10:19] Speaker A: I know, but. Okay. Hopefully, by the. It won't last too long. [00:10:25] Speaker B: I'm like, yeah, you should be pretty sure. [00:10:29] Speaker A: But let's jump in. Let's jump in to this episode, because you and I have been talking about this for a while. [00:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Hey, we want to do this episode because living here on our little farm in our farmhouse, we've had so many experiences because we're working with our land now. We have our farm animals, our chickens and our cats. And it's interesting, I think, for people like us, that we allow our life to speak to us in a way and teach. We're always looking for these deeper lessons about life. [00:11:09] Speaker B: And even though we only have, obviously, our pets, the cats and the chickens, only with those two types of pets, we call it pets, even our chickens, they've taught us so much. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And then just gardening, obviously, gardening and taking care of the land has just led to lessons that we in the doing them, experiencing that we can apply. [00:11:39] Speaker B: Into our own personal lives. [00:11:42] Speaker A: So let's jump into them. We've kind of categorized these lessons and we want to share them with all of you. And hopefully they speak to you. They resonate. I mean, grab whatever resonates and leave the rest. But the first one that we want to talk about, for me, it's like the same lesson, but we learn it in different ways. For me, it's through weeding, and for you it's through taking care of the olive trees or the olive trees. [00:12:15] Speaker B: But this is the thing. Some people will say, but why do you weed out by hand? [00:12:22] Speaker A: Yeah, why do you use your hands. [00:12:24] Speaker B: Or using the hole? But the thing is, is weeding controversial? [00:12:29] Speaker A: What are you talking about? [00:12:30] Speaker B: No, because a lot of people go, like, just put chemicals. [00:12:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. We don't. [00:12:35] Speaker B: Yeah, because even the neighbors just put chemicals. Why do you have to do it by hand with a hole or by hand or. Yeah, just drop a whole bunch of. But we're like, you know what? Because it's like we see ourselves in the future, and we have experienced already that we like to be barefoot sometimes in the grass, connecting to the ground. And you don't want to think that there's a whole bunch of chemicals in there because the skin is obviously our biggest organism and absorbs so many things. It's just like. No. Yeah. And even in that process, which is really hard, what have you learned? [00:13:12] Speaker A: Well, for me, it's really interesting because we've done the Vipassana meditation. There is this idea that you are taught in meditation where they talk about, oh, my goSh, I should have had this term looked up. Do you remember about when you have a deep kind of issue? Oh, my God. And actually, it's not an issue, it's a pattern. Right. So when you have this pattern in you, the concept is called Sankara. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Yeah, sankara. [00:13:48] Speaker A: Sankara. And so part of the meditation process is to remove these sankaras, and some of them are more deeply rooted than others. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:14:00] Speaker A: And so when I started weeding, one of the things that I realized was, and I remember you telling me, you have to take out the root. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:13] Speaker A: And if you don't take out the root of the sankara. I'm sorry, the root of the weed, if you don't take it out, then it's going to come back. And what I realized in doing the weeding is that sometimes the roots are super long. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:14:35] Speaker A: And I think this comes up for you with the olive trees as well. Right. And ultimately, what I realized was that there has to be this CONstant kind of practice of weeding the garden to take out these roots and the weeds so that they don't take over your garden. And that's kind of like life. You have to constantly be checking and working on those patterns that you're trying to move in a different direction. Right. Or your healing practices that you're trying to integrate into your life. You have to constantly be doing that so that you don't revert to those patterns. This process of weeding, I'm just like, wow, I love weeding. I need to do it more often, but I really do just love it because it just keeps me grounded and reminded of how important our spiritual practices are, our healing practices. It really should be a daily thing. And the more that you integrate it into your daily life and routine, the better tended to your internal life is. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Yes, definitely. For me, with the olives, we have kind of similar 14 olives, and we didn't have the whole trees. The trees that we have. The only trees that we have is only one, two, four trees. We only have four trees, but we have, like, 13 others that we only had. The trunks. They were actually chopped off. And in the trunks, there's always this new growth that springs out of it, and we're like, oh, my God. And actually, even with another person, it helped me to get them out. And a way we found out to get rid of the olive trunks was to actually burn them. So, yeah, some of them, the person actually was able to completely remove it with an axe and a chainsaw. But it was super difficult. And then we discovered, like, you know what? Let's just make a hole and put it on fire. And they actually burned down and completely. We thought it was completely. But now, a year later, there is all these new growth, these new branches. Branches. They look like they're olive trees. They're coming out of the ground and even far away from their trunks. That means that there is even these roots, olive tree roots that stay there underground. And all of a sudden, the conditions become perfect for them to grow again. Yeah, it's just like, oh, and I saw them coming out. I'm like, eventually, I'll go and get back to them. But no. And they grew really tall. And that's when I told Paulito, you know what, Pablo, our son, come and help me. We need to get rid of those again. And now it's just like another process. It's really hard. [00:18:04] Speaker A: I mean, I remember you were saying, like, how the olive trees, the roots go so deep that people typically will take the trees. [00:18:13] Speaker B: Yeah. The machines will come. You know, the big machines, they chop them off the whole thing. They shred it into how they call the compost. They compost the whole thing. But then eventually the machines, they need to go through the ground, because even under the ground, there's still the roots. And if you don't get to them, they will come out again. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Again. I feel like, look at, this is just like nature teaching you something about life. Right. And just how we have to have this kind of constant, persistent, and I think intentional. Right. [00:18:53] Speaker B: Yeah. We have to be super intentional to work on ourselves. [00:18:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:59] Speaker B: The often that we do it, the better, because it has to be like, as you said, in best case scenario, every day. But sometimes, you know, life is hard, but as often as we possibly can, it's always the best. It's the ideal. [00:19:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Because we all have these just deep rooted patterns. [00:19:19] Speaker B: And what do we mean by deep rooted patterns? Some patterns in our life that don't give us the best of life. [00:19:27] Speaker A: Yeah. That you go, you know what? I really want to work on that. [00:19:31] Speaker B: Most of us, we call them bad habits. Yeah. [00:19:34] Speaker A: But they're just patterns like yelling patterns. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Like yelling, cursing, becoming right away aggressive. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:19:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Or just, I don't know, it could even be the way that we spend money, the way that we tune out. [00:19:54] Speaker B: Because at the end of the day, anything can become an addiction. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:58] Speaker B: Anything can become an addiction. Spending addiction, addiction to, obviously, these substances. So many things. [00:20:05] Speaker A: Right. And so when these come into our awareness and we're like, oh, I really want to work on that. Or even how we relate to each other, we realize, man, I have this pattern of whenever we argue, I go to this place. Like you said, it can really be anything. But we have these deep rooted patterns and we just have to be just like weeding and just like tending to these olive trees. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Right. [00:20:38] Speaker A: We have to be just persistent and consistent and committed. Yeah. In whatever it is, however it is that we're going to arankar those raises as much as we can so that. [00:20:52] Speaker B: We can actually feel more rested by rest. I mean, like more at peace. Yeah. So you don't have to feel like there's something. There's something missing. [00:21:06] Speaker A: Let's switch over to our next topic we wanted to talk about. Let's talk about the garden. What did you learn from our garden experience? Gardening. First gardening attempt. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Last year was our first gardening attempt. For me, I will say, I learned so much. Besides the gardening, I also learned so much about life. [00:21:27] Speaker A: So what was, like, your top lesson? [00:21:29] Speaker B: My top lesson was like, it was about the quality of the soil. So we were like, you know what? We're going to do gardening. We already knew, like, two years ago that we wanted to start gardening. So I was like, what is it? One of the things that is important in gardening is use the quality of the soil. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:49] Speaker B: We started composting. So whenever we start gardening, the compost was going to be ready. So composting by ourselves, obviously, all these craps of fruits and vegetables, we were composting them. Anything that is compostable, we were composting most of it. Yeah. So for me, oh, my God, it taught me so much about life in the sense that if you are going to put new life, which are the seeds, the soil, the condition of the soil matters, and how they are connected to my personal abolition is like, what is my social life with the connections that I have with other people? The environment where I found myself in, is it an environment that is going to help me grow? Or is an environment that is just. [00:22:41] Speaker A: Toxic, like, grow supersonic? Because we got some really humongous vegetables out of these nutrients, you can actually. [00:22:50] Speaker B: See some of the pictures and you follow us. So, for me, it was just, how do we learn about making really good soil? And now, for me, it's like, let me reflect on my social life, my friends, family. I find myself in a place where I'm going to flourish, nourished. Thank you. And feel nourished, because we get the nourishment as well from other people, as you said, you told me several times, we cannot do it by ourselves. [00:23:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:30] Speaker B: We need to feel nourished, because at the end of the day, as human beings, we need to feel seen, we need to be heard, and we just need to be loved. And those three conditions are actually like the soil, the nutrients. Do you have appropriate nutrients of the plants based on the plants that you're going to sow here? Does the soil meet the environment? [00:23:58] Speaker A: What is the environment. [00:24:02] Speaker B: Rich and all that? And then you start thinking about the proper amount of sunlight. It's just like, oh, my God, what is the proper amount? Also, for me, about work and life and how much is my life they're spending for thinking about work? And how much of my life do I spend with friends and family? That is quality. Quality time. [00:24:22] Speaker A: Yeah, very true. I think for me, this time around, it made me really slow down and notice the seasons in a way that I hadn't before. And I think with gardening, that's what happens, because there's a moment in the season in which you plant things and then a moment in the season, and then you have to be nurturing, giving it the proper water and like you said, the sun and the right soil, taking care of the environment, and then in another season is where everything is ready to be harvested. And Thon says even now our garden is quiet. We cleaned it out in the winter and it's kind of quiet, but we have to start already planning for the next. [00:25:15] Speaker B: Even then it does silence. There's beauty in it. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:25:19] Speaker B: I found myself, like, daydreaming in the middle of that over garden beds, which are completely, how they call it, barren, are completely just there. Nothing in there. It's just a type of beauty in the silence. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And so, yeah, just really becoming hyper aware of the seasons. I think a lot of times in life we want to do things because we have this goal and we're like, and you know what? I'm going to do this. I have this goal and I'm going to do it and I'm going to start at this time. And you know what? Sometimes it's not the right season for starting things or planting seeds. Sometimes it's the season for just being quiet and going inward and letting things just die and decay and honoring that as well. And then there's the moment of harvest. And so these are very much aligned, obviously, with our four seasons of winter, spring, fall, everything. But I think that we don't realize, like, in life, you could plant the seeds, but it doesn't mean that they are going to harvest because sometimes germinate. Thank you. Because you're going counter what is really the flow of life in the season of life. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Like, they just say, you plant tomatoes right now, it's the winter not going to work out. Even if you have the right type of soil, they're not going to give you fruit. Yeah, they will grow, but they're not going to be. [00:27:04] Speaker A: And I think it's, you know what, another kind of metaphor, I think, in the garden is just how there's all these different types of vegetables and each vegetable needs its own water, amount of water, amount of sunlight. [00:27:23] Speaker B: We remember how we deal with that. Oh, my God. Some plants are receiving too much water. How do we deal with that? [00:27:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So some of them weren't growing the way they needed to because they were getting too much water, because they were with another plant that needed all that water. But it just reminded me, or I think it's a great metaphor for kids. Yeah, because. [00:27:39] Speaker B: Exactly. Thank you. [00:27:41] Speaker A: All of our children are so different. Everyone is so different. [00:27:45] Speaker B: So different. [00:27:46] Speaker A: And everyone needs a different amount of water and sunlight. And our personalities, they're just so different. [00:27:54] Speaker B: So different. Yes. [00:27:55] Speaker A: And they need those different conditions. [00:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Because you may have a child that is like a tomato plant, but another one. You may have another child that is like a chile plant. Completely different. They need different things. [00:28:09] Speaker A: They need different things. [00:28:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Some of them need to grow in the dark. [00:28:15] Speaker B: We develop that awareness now. You can give each. [00:28:23] Speaker A: I think it's just a reminder. [00:28:24] Speaker B: It's not about giving your kids, treating them the same. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Treating them the same. [00:28:29] Speaker B: It's not about treating them the same because the same doesn't mean that it's going to be equitable. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Yeah. It's about giving them what they each need. [00:28:36] Speaker B: Some of them are going to need more hacks. Some of them is going to be more attention. Some of them are going to be. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Easier to raise in that sense. Because I think some kids just want more autonomy than others. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:28:52] Speaker A: It was just a great reminder. And even for each other, for me. [00:28:57] Speaker B: I was just like completely in awe. Even though I've grown chili plants in the past, they need to be in the cusp of water starvation. That's when they become the most beautiful plants and you get the most beautiful chiles. [00:29:16] Speaker A: Right. [00:29:16] Speaker B: Not too much water. Not too little water. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Right. But we're like, no. [00:29:21] Speaker B: In the brink. Oh, my God. It is hard. But the experience itself teaches you a lot. Teaches you so much. [00:29:31] Speaker A: Okay, we're going to go on to our last topic that we wanted to talk about, which is we saved this one for last because it's also the hardest one to talk about. And we're going to try to get through this one without crying because every time we talk about this. But look it. I'm already going to start crying. We're going to talk about what we've learned from our animals. We have raised now two flocks of chickens. [00:29:57] Speaker B: Two flocks of chickens. Yeah. [00:29:59] Speaker A: The first flock of chickens we lost to a fox. A fox that came in the night. [00:30:06] Speaker B: That came in the middle of the night. Actually tear the wire from the supposedly or chicken coop was supposedly to be wildlife proof. That's why I bought it. Life proof. But the fox was able to actually make a small tear in the wire and it was able to get in. [00:30:28] Speaker A: Yeah. And it killed all their chickens. [00:30:30] Speaker B: And it killed all of their chickens. And we knew it was a fox based on the crime scene. Yeah. It just fitted up with the crime scene perfectly for a fox. [00:30:39] Speaker A: And then we got another flock. [00:30:42] Speaker B: We got another one. [00:30:43] Speaker A: We got a second flock. And this second flock, all ten made it to be big chickens, adult chickens. [00:30:51] Speaker B: We got plenty of eggs. [00:30:53] Speaker A: And we were doing so great. And then summer came and we lost half of our chickens to the heat because we didn't know about how to care for them during the summer. During extreme heat. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Extreme heat. And besides, we were not here and we weren't here. [00:31:10] Speaker A: We were doing our family summer trip. And so we weren't here to be monitoring them 24/7 yeah, we have someone. [00:31:20] Speaker B: To take care of them. [00:31:21] Speaker A: Yes. But we had told them, oh, you just need to come in the day, in the morning and in the evening. [00:31:26] Speaker B: Take the water and the food, and that's it. [00:31:28] Speaker A: Because we didn't know the extreme heat. And so anyways, we lost half of our chickens. So then we had five and about, I don't know, like two months ago, maybe three. [00:31:41] Speaker B: Really? [00:31:41] Speaker A: Three months ago? Okay. About three months ago, we would let our chickens out to graze during the daytime because we now have our fence. [00:31:50] Speaker B: In the past, we didn't have a front fence or side fences or side fences. Yeah. But now we have the back fence and the front fence, so we felt. [00:31:58] Speaker A: More secure with our chicken. So we would just let them graze. I would let them out around noon, and then we'd put them back in the evening at sunset. Anyways, so during the middle of the day, around 03:00 I go to pick up the kids. And when I came back on this particular day, the neighbor's dogs had gotten into our property. And by the time we got back, they had killed three of our chickens. And one chicken was lost. And the other one, I managed to get there in time to save her from dying. Like, she had been bitten. Bitten a few times. [00:32:38] Speaker B: A few times already, I want to. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Say, like, three or four times. But we managed to save her and we managed to nurse. [00:32:48] Speaker B: I completely thought that she wasn't. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Yeah, we didn't think she was going to make it, but we were able to nurse her back to health. [00:32:53] Speaker B: Yeah. For two weeks we had her in one of the rooms in our home. [00:32:58] Speaker A: It took her a long time to stand up and walk again. And then she shed all of her feathers completely. [00:33:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:06] Speaker A: And now she looks like herself again, finally. So now we have two chickens. But that moment of finding those dogs and, I mean, I'm still pretty traumatized. Traumatized? [00:33:21] Speaker B: Yeah. For me, I did the cleanup. I found that. [00:33:25] Speaker A: And we always send you to do the cleanup. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Some of the chickens were just completely just eaten. One of them was half eaten. [00:33:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:33] Speaker B: So I had to make myself think that it was poultry from the Russia store. Yeah. So I didn't feel that bad. And we feel bad because on those of you that are listening, we raised those chickens since they were only little chicks. [00:33:49] Speaker A: Baby chicks. Like, three days old. [00:33:50] Speaker B: Three days old. Yeah, three days old. So you build these connections with them. That's why we call them pets, because they actually grow with you and they like you and they follow you and they love to hang out with you. [00:34:05] Speaker A: Yeah. They would just jump on us. [00:34:06] Speaker B: They jump on you and, hey, how are you doing? Life is. Yeah. Oh, my God. Beautiful. And all of a sudden, used to have to have them gone just because of some Chihuahua's that are hungry. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it was hard. [00:34:25] Speaker B: It was hard. [00:34:28] Speaker A: And then we lost our beloved cat. [00:34:30] Speaker B: And then we lost. I have never cried so much about a pet. Oh, my God. We lost cosmo. Yeah. One of our ragdoll's cats. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And the thing with him was that he was, from the beginning, he just loved to be outside. I mean, I feel like most of the people that I know that have cats, they don't let their cats out. And from the beginning, we've always felt really bad having the cats inside because they want to go outside. [00:35:02] Speaker B: Because this is the thing. Imagine you spend, like, during the weekend, you spend most of your time outside because it's beautiful. [00:35:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:12] Speaker B: At least for me. I just couldn't dare myself see. Enjoy myself outside and look through the glass, through the door glass and seeing your animal that wants to be with you and you sending to the animal. No, because this is not good for you. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And so we would let them out. [00:35:30] Speaker B: Yes, because obviously, cats in the nature come and they want to be outside. [00:35:38] Speaker A: Something I noticed with the chickens, too, is if there was ever a day where you were like, no. Or we were away from the house or something, and we wouldn't let the chickens out. Oh, my God. Melavatanto pesad. I just felt so horrible because at the same time, it felt like I would think, what if you had to stay locked in your house, like, an entire day in a small house because the chicken coop wasn't that big. Yeah, it was big. [00:36:10] Speaker B: But not. [00:36:11] Speaker A: But metaphorically speaking. Metaphorically speaking, I think that sometimes we are in boxes. We are ourselves putting ourselves in sometimes these mental boxes. And I always think, man, every day of your life, you've got to let yourself come out of that box and that's why I love Zumba so much. Because for 1 hour that I do zumba, I allow myself to be as wild and free and move however my body wants to move, and I allow that for myself. And maybe I can't be that way, necessarily, when I'm at work on my Zoom calls. Right. Or whatever. I can't always be that way. But there has to be this moment in time where you get to be wild and free. And so I think that's why in so many ways, we allowed our animals. [00:37:11] Speaker B: To roam for you. You explain it so beautifully for me. If I feel this joy of being outside and how good it feels, peace and joy, I want my pets to feel the same. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Yeah. To have a great life. [00:37:30] Speaker B: To have a great life. [00:37:32] Speaker A: And so it was hard with Cosmo that one morning he didn't come back. We would let him out early in the morning. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Yeah. We would let them out early in the morning. [00:37:44] Speaker A: And he kept wanting to go out earlier and earlier and earlier, but he would always be back in the morning. We would call his name and he'd be back in the morning. [00:37:52] Speaker B: No, we didn't even have to call that name. [00:37:55] Speaker A: Not always, but most of the time. [00:37:56] Speaker B: Most of the time. By seven. [00:37:57] Speaker A: Yeah, he'd be back. [00:37:58] Speaker B: He'll be back. [00:37:58] Speaker A: And that morning, he didn't come back, and he was gone all day. And I don't want to belabor this because it's so hard, but the next day, we did have air tags on them, and his beeped, and we went to that area, and Vicky's actually the. [00:38:13] Speaker B: One who found him after a day and a half. [00:38:16] Speaker A: After a day and a half, she found him. And it was the hardest moment to go through for her and for us. And then we called Paolo again to come and get him, and we buried him in our. You know, I'm thankful that we were able to find him. [00:38:36] Speaker B: Yes. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Because I feel like we would have always been looking for him. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And we have talked about this. I think the pain of the airtag, it needed to happen. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:49] Speaker B: Even though it didn't happen for a day and a half, because the airtime was. The battery was. The battery was really low. [00:38:55] Speaker A: But I feel like Cosmo was like, I know you guys need to find me. [00:38:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:59] Speaker A: And made it happen. [00:39:00] Speaker B: So to have some type of sort of closure. [00:39:05] Speaker A: But, I mean, the thing that gives me peace is that he lived a life of joy. [00:39:11] Speaker B: Yes. Because obviously, same with the cats. We had them since they were, like, a few weeks old. Yeah. Because obviously the people breed the breeder. The breeder. Obviously, he won't sell your cat until a certain weeks of age. Why? Because they need to be eating from a mom and so on and so on. So the same with the cats. We just, like, we cannot have you locked up. [00:39:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:39] Speaker B: When we enjoy outside. No. You cannot be just miserable inside. No. We knew of the dangers, but at the end of the day, you have to just let life be as normal as you possibly can. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just a reminder, like, you can't control everything. [00:40:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And for chickens, the first block, obviously, we thought that they were saving inside the chicken coop. The second flock, we didn't remember. We have no idea about the dangers of the heat waves in half of that flock. We thought that we were secure already by our fences. Yeah. It's just like, oh, my God. Sometimes you feel that you're safe, but in life, everything is just unpredictable. And as you said, we cannot force ourselves to be living inside a box in perpetuating. Because then are you living life or you are letting your fear guide your life? It's so complex. [00:40:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I always thought we have to find this balance of safety and freedom for the animals. [00:41:04] Speaker B: And I think that we always say that we need to find a balance. [00:41:08] Speaker A: But I'm like, man, I don't know if it's balance. [00:41:10] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:41:11] Speaker A: I feel like, forget the word balance, because at every point we're trying to be. I think now we're trying to do. [00:41:19] Speaker B: The best we can because there's balance in the mixture. Yes, but there has to be other elements to it. [00:41:26] Speaker A: Yeah, but I think we're trying to create the safest environment that we can, but within that understanding that we can't control everything and that life is still going to happen. And just trust, I think, is what you said. We just have to trust. [00:41:51] Speaker B: We have to add trust as another element. Obviously, health wise, you want to balance what you eat and things like that, but then you have to. Talking about life, you have to use trust. Trust that freedom is more important than fear. [00:42:16] Speaker A: And trusting, I guess trusting. [00:42:18] Speaker B: Trusting that at the end of the day, that's the beauty of life, to be as free as possible for you and your pets. And now for us, it's going to be how we're going to come to the conclusion that we have to use trust when our children leave the house. [00:42:36] Speaker A: Well, and I think also just trusting that life will go on. [00:42:41] Speaker B: Life will go on. Yeah. [00:42:42] Speaker A: That you'll have a semblance of normalcy, a new normal that comes. [00:42:50] Speaker B: Imagine a new normal. Will send in. [00:42:52] Speaker A: Yeah. And that this is a cycle of life. [00:42:55] Speaker B: This is just the cycle. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Cycle of life. And trusting that you're going to be okay. At the end of the day, this is the way of it, as some people would say. I forget, is that Star wars the way of it? The mandalorian trust. [00:43:19] Speaker B: You need to have faith. You have to just be as present as you can to live your life. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Enjoy every day. [00:43:25] Speaker B: Enjoy. Because at the end of the day, life is unpredictable. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I remember telling Paolo right before I left, the chickens that day, they were just enjoying themselves in the dirt, and I looked at them and I was like, wow, they're just living their best life. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Yes. You told me about that. [00:43:48] Speaker A: And I couldn't believe I came back to find half of them, like, murdered in a way. Right. Just slaughtered by the dogs. But did they live a great, beautiful life, the ones that we lost? Yeah, absolutely. [00:44:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And for Cosmo, I always thought about the dangers of being, because he was an adventurous cat. I always thought that eventually he was going to get in trouble, but I never thought it was going to be decent. [00:44:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:18] Speaker B: Never thought that it was going to be so soon. It's hard. But at the end of the day, I was like, he was being himself. He was an explorer. Adventure. That's what he was. [00:44:31] Speaker A: The cat, he took off far. [00:44:33] Speaker B: He will pretty far, climb the trees all the way to the top. He is the first cat that could kill one of a bird. It's just like, oh, my God. Yeah. [00:44:45] Speaker A: So, yeah, that's it, everyone. Those are our lessons. I hate to end on kind of a downer to close out the season in terms of what we're talking about with this last lessons with the farms. I'm sorry. With the animals, they were the hardest lessons to learn, and they have been, because they're about loss. And I think everyone can agree that in our life, it's probably the hardest thing to accept is the loss of our loved ones, of our fur babies. That is kind of the hardest thing to process, and it takes time, and it takes time. So, hopefully, I don't know. I hope that these lessons from the farm are helpful to you, that they plant seeds of growth and deeper understanding for you and can in some way help you on your own journey. And honestly, I hope that they inspire you to be quite honest, to stay awake to your own life and to the own lessons that are popping up right in front of you in your own life. [00:46:08] Speaker B: I'm into that. [00:46:09] Speaker A: Thank you guys so much. We will catch you for the next season. We will be off the airwaves for a while. We'll be back in the summer to kick off again a new season of Somos Badares. But thank you guys so much to all of you who've listened as we rejoined the podcast world, and we'll see you soon. [00:46:38] Speaker B: Ciao. [00:46:39] Speaker A: Bye. Hi. [00:46:46] Speaker B: If you like this podcast, please share with your friends and family. [00:46:50] Speaker A: You can subscribe to the podcast and leave a review. It's super important to help spread the message. [00:46:56] Speaker B: You can also follow our parents on Instagram at Imdasiania, at Paolo Manchaka, and. [00:47:03] Speaker A: At Somosta Padres Gram.